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From: Josua Hunziker <Josua.Hunziker@kistler.com>
To: Christian Gabriel <Christian.Gabriel@kistler.com>, Dave Dickinson
<Dave.Dickinson@kistler.com>, 'Julien Gantner'
<Julien.Gantner@softwareinmotion.de>, "zhixiang.wang@ift-informatik.de"
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Subject: AW: 181108.TSS_Platform_Beckhoff_etc.pptx
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Hi Christian
Thanks for the information. I'm sure we can somehow manage access to the so=
urces once the project setup is clear. However, as discussed this morning, =
that's exactly what needs to be defined first - also from a technical point=
of view.
OPC/UA Support in SkyBase is in a very, very, very early stage, i.e., we're=
just about to get started. In general, I'm not so sure whether or not KiCo=
nnect will be the best fit on the "lower" layers of your architecture diagr=
am - it really depends on what you're focusing on. For sure, neither ADS no=
r EtherCat Protocol adapters are already here yet and probably wouldn't be =
something the Platform provides - these would have to be developed in the T=
SS project scope as KiConnect Protocol Adapters. In any case, the connectiv=
ity layer definitely needs to be clarified in a workshop or so as we don't =
know enough about what you're trying to model here in order to give a sophi=
sticated advice.
On the upper layers, however, I'm optimistic that we could help with some a=
spects. (User Management and Access, Cloud Storage, UI Framework, maybe als=
o Parameter Store). I guess it also depends on how the deployment model loo=
ks like - our services usually come dockerized with REST APIs. If that's fi=
ne for you, I guess we can build on that.
Of course, an important aspect is your timeline. We have just committed to =
our scope to be delivered until March and are pretty well booked. Not that =
plans can't be changed, but I'd need the approval of the Platform Board if =
major efforts would be required to support here in the running months. Furt=
hermore, you told me this morning that the first systems are to be shipped =
in May, which does not leave much time for custom development on our side.
Therefore, please organize a first conf call to clarify the general setup, =
ideas and timeline. As I'm on the road most of this week and absent next we=
ek, I'd propose that we try to find a spot in KW48, e.g., on Nov 28th or 29=
th. In case it needs to be earlier, please invite Ondrej to a first session=
next week (KW47).
Many thanks
Josua
Von: Gabriel Christian
Gesendet: Montag, 12. November 2018 14:44
An: Dickinson Dave; Hunziker Josua; 'Julien Gantner'; zhixiang.wang@ift-inf=
ormatik.de; nai.xueshang@ift-informatik.de
Betreff: 181108.TSS_Platform_Beckhoff_etc.pptx
Hallo zusammen,
here you find the new architecture of the test stands.
@Josua, can we get a facility to access to all what the Kistler framewoks a=
re from outside?
@Zhixiang, Xueshang, Julien, we should step into the Kistler frameworks qui=
ckly with a few meetings,
Immediately after we have access to all the sources.
Regards
Christian
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
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family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Thanks for the information=
. I’m sure we can somehow manage access to the sources once the proje=
ct setup is clear. However, as discussed this morning, that’s exactly
what needs to be defined first – also from a technical point of view=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif"">OPC/UA Support in SkyBase =
is in a very, very, very early stage, i.e., we’re just about to get s=
tarted. In general, I’m not so sure whether or not KiConnect will
be the best fit on the “lower” layers of your architecture dia=
gram – it really depends on what you’re focusing on. For sure, =
neither ADS nor EtherCat Protocol adapters are already here yet and probabl=
y wouldn’t be something the Platform provides – these would
have to be developed in the TSS project scope as KiConnect Protocol Adapte=
rs. In any case, the connectivity layer definitely needs to be clarified in=
a workshop or so as we don’t know enough about what you’re try=
ing to model here in order to give a sophisticated
advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On the upper layers, howev=
er, I’m optimistic that we could help with some aspects. (User Manage=
ment and Access, Cloud Storage, UI Framework,
<i>maybe</i> also Parameter Store). I guess it also depends on how the depl=
oyment model looks like – our services usually come dockerized with R=
EST APIs. If that’s fine for you, I guess we can build on that.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Of course, an important as=
pect is your timeline. We have just committed to our scope to be delivered =
until March and are pretty well booked. Not that plans can’t
be changed, but I’d need the approval of the Platform Board if major=
efforts would be required to support here in the running months. Furthermo=
re, you told me this morning that the first systems are to be shipped in Ma=
y, which does not leave much time for
custom development on our side.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Therefore, please organize=
a first conf call to clarify the general setup, ideas and timeline. As I&#=
8217;m on the road most of this week and absent next week, I’d propos=
e
that we try to find a spot in KW48, e.g., on Nov 28<sup>th</sup> or 29<sup=
>th</sup>. In case it needs to be earlier, please invite Ondrej to a first =
session next week (KW47).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
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uot;Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"> Gabrie=
l Christian
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 12. November 2018 14:44<br>
<b>An:</b> Dickinson Dave; Hunziker Josua; 'Julien Gantner'; zhixiang.wang@=
ift-informatik.de; nai.xueshang@ift-informatik.de<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> 181108.TSS_Platform_Beckhoff_etc.pptx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;">here you find the new architecture of the test stands.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;">@Josua, can we get a facility to access to all what the Kistler framewok=
s are from outside?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;">@Zhixiang, Xueshang, Julien, we should step into the Kistler frameworks =
quickly with a few meetings,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;">Immediately after we have access to all the sources.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
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yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
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